Ep. 159: Breaking Healthcare Burnout: Leadership Lessons – Interview with LynAnn Weaver, Founder of Healthcare Elevation Partners

Expand WIW (00:00)
What's going on everybody? Nick, the marketer back with another podcast episode with walk-ins welcome. We're always here to help you grow your clinic. We want you to get more patients, deliver better care. want repeat visits and to scale your clinics. I can't wait to have a Lynn and Weaver with me today. She is going to be on the podcast. We're going to be going through some really good material, but I want to lay this up nicely because Lynn and I became acquainted at the merchant market merchant symposium. I think I'm saying that right. I'm probably butchering it, but LynAnn Weaver (00:27)
Merchant Medicine Symposium. WIW (00:28)
Merchant Medicine Symposium. I want to make sure that, thank you, Lenin. So we met there. How I got acquainted with you was you were a keynote speaker at that event. And I was getting, first of it was a great event, but there was, you know, there was some good stuff. There was some dry stuff, but very little on leadership in the clinic space. And I was very, very excited to hear that because I love leadership. So real quick, Lenin Weaver, we met at the Merchant Medicine Symposium.

She's the founder of healthcare elevation partners. She's a certified high-performance coach, healthcare leader and advocate for physicians and healthcare leaders growth and their wellbeing. I love that. She's got an MBA in healthcare administration from what's arguably my favorite state, which is Colorado. I believe you went to the University of Colorado in Denver, a neurosciences service line director. I can't wait to hear what that is because I have no idea what that is, but nationally recognized achievement. So it's for somebody at the Stroke Center, right?

LynAnn Weaver (01:20)
You WIW (01:25)
led growth of physicians practices and services by 30 to 67%. That's huge. A semi-finalist in the great American speak-off. That means you know how to talk to people. I'm super excited about that. Quick note of your personal journey overcame a life-changing car accident. I hope I get a little bit of that because I'm very curious to hear about that. And I could imagine the recovery and the impact on your leadership was huge there. Some focus areas. I'm just gonna focus on one, because there's so many here that we have listed out.

really today talk about burnout more than anything. And I think that's gonna be a huge part of our conversation. But without further ado, Lana and Weaver, say hello to the Walk-Ins Welcome audience and tell us one thing about you that nobody else knows. Hi.

LynAnn Weaver (02:08)
First off, I am very excited to be here. Glad that we had the opportunity to connect at Merchant Medicine Symposium. Something that very few people know about me is I have summited over 14 14ers. And for anybody who's not from Colorado or doesn't know what that is, that is a mountain that is over 14,000 feet. And part of my journey, that was one of my goals to be able to do again after my car wreck, especially being told that I would never walk again. I was bound and determined to be able to run, lift, WIW (02:32)
Mmm. LynAnn Weaver (02:38)
hike, bike, do everything that I love to do. And being able to summit those 14ers has just been one of those lifelong goals. WIW (02:46)
So I love that you call them 14ers because I've got a 14 year old. So I'm immediately thinking of him and you taking them. Am I on the right track? These are children. Am I way off base here? Is this 14 journeys up a mountain? what? Help me understand this middle. That's what it is. Okay. Cause I immediately thought you had a group of 14 year olds, which is a totally random number. LynAnn Weaver (03:03)
Yeah, 14 Journey is up to a peak that's over 14,000 feet.

actual mountain.

WIW (03:12)
Well, last time I was in Colorado, been a couple of times, but we got to go up Pikes Peak. I did not hike it. We drove a car. Yeah, that was, but my goodness, the air gets thin up there. So just to be able to hike that in general. LynAnn Weaver (03:19)
I don't blame you.

It does. So imagine actually hiking that 14 different ones. I have not hiked pikes. That's a really long hike, but it's beautiful from the top. I've been to the top several times. I wanted to see the world from other points.

WIW (03:38)
Do you have a favorite part of Colorado? LynAnn Weaver (03:42)
gosh, Aspen. WIW (03:43)
Aspen. So I haven't spent any time there, but I've been to Golden. I've been to Aurora, you know, all the usual suspects, Garden of the Gods and all that. It's just so beautiful out there. All right. I want to talk about your company. So tell me about your company. What is it? What do you do and how do you help clinic owners? LynAnn Weaver (03:52)
It really is.

Yeah. So I, my company's name is healthcare elevation partners, and we really are on a mission to elevate healthcare in every way, shape and form. My training is a background in healthcare administration, as you mentioned. And during that time, I really found that there were some key specific differences between our top performers who seemed to energize every day, happy, loved to come to work, seemed really fulfilled and hit all of their goals.

And then our other group who seemed to oftentimes start out well, and then something would shift and they weren't hitting as many of their goals. They were more frustrated, more burned out. You could just feel this heaviness on them and they weren't happy. And we ended up going through several challenges, which is rampant in healthcare today where we almost lost.

several of our physicians to turnover, either a couple of them were ready to leave healthcare altogether. One of the docs at one of the hospitals that I worked with actually committed suicide on campus. I lost a colleague also to suicide and all of it tied back to burnout, the way that they saw themselves, the way that they felt so hopeless in that situation and not thinking that things could change. And so going through all of that, I went, my gosh, I have to figure out

WIW (05:05)
no. LynAnn Weaver (05:23)
how I can start to help support my teams better. I don't have the tools for this. don't have the resources or the training for this. So this is what we talked about when I was going through my MBA program. None of the other leaders really had great solutions at that time. And I started diving into everything that I could about leadership, personal growth and development, found the world of high performance and went, my gosh, there's six key strategies that really anybody can master. WIW (05:28)
Right. LynAnn Weaver (05:51)
to become a high performer, which we define high performance as achieving heightened levels of sustained success over the long term without sacrificing health, wellbeing, or positive relationships along the way. And taking that concept and tying it together with my background in business development, I was a physician liaison, a lot of my service line responsibilities were around strategic planning, operations, and business development. And so,

kind of melded that together with everybody needs to hit their goals. How do we help them hit them sustainably, be as busy as they want to be, hit their revenue targets, and not burn out? Because we want people to be happy, successful, and fulfilled. so Health Care Elevation Partners really is kind of a pioneer in the fusion of business growth strategies, leadership, and well-being.

WIW (06:47)
So I always take notes on my desk when I'm having conversations here, but something that stood out to me is you have a goal to help people feel happy, successful, and fulfilled. And what that immediately makes me think are that a large percentage maybe, maybe not even a large percentage, but a percentage of doctors and clinic owners and physicians, maybe they don't have any joy or they feel like they're failing. LynAnn Weaver (06:58)
Yes. WIW (07:14)
or they feel empty. So that's like the antithesis of the three things that you're talking about. But burnout can set in really, really quick. what are some like, yes, you have happy, successful, fulfilled, but what are some of the key indicators of burnout? Like what are the initial signs? LynAnn Weaver (07:31)
So people who are starting to just really kind of lose that joy in their work, at least that's one of the key indicators that I've seen. The ones who go from, it's that shift from, OK, I'm connected to my passion and my purpose. I feel fulfilled when I'm doing my work. I'm happy. I'm energized. I know why I'm here. To the stress is overwhelming. WIW (07:37)
Hmm. LynAnn Weaver (07:57)
I'm feeling chronically stressed. I don't feel like there's a way out. I've lost my joy, which there's actually a direct correlation between joy and success. And there was a study out of meta analysis out of Harvard called the happiness advantage that showed that when you're in a positive state of mind, so what we would experience is joy or happiness. You are up to 31 % more productive, 37 % better at sales, which

everything we do is sales from getting your kids to do their homework to convincing a patient that they actually need to follow your recommendations to creating an experience for your patients to where you're growing your volumes substantially. And one of the things that I thought was most interesting out of this study was that physicians are 19 % faster at determining an accurate diagnosis just because of, it's really the neurochemical state that

WIW (08:30)
everything. LynAnn Weaver (08:56)
in but our experience of stress versus anger, frustration, negative emotions or happiness, joy, fulfillment. WIW (09:04)
Well, I love that you said joy and purpose. Well, I don't think you said the word purpose, but that's what it sounds like. Like, you know why you're doing what you do, which means there's purpose behind it. You know, if you're listening to this and you feel like you don't know why you're getting up every day and doing what you're doing, you're either burned out or you're right on the cusp of it. LynAnn Weaver (09:11)
Yeah. WIW (09:25)
You know, if you're not smiling throughout the day and it's not a pleasure to be at your office or at your clinic or at your job or treating a patient, your joy is slipping and you're on the verge of burnout. I think the ultimate goal here is to identify these things so we don't get to that, that end state where somebody's trying to take their own life. You know, that's huge, right? Yes, you want to be successful, but let's dodge that bullet too. I don't, God, that sounded bad. I may have to go ahead and that out. You know what I mean? LynAnn Weaver (09:25)
Mm-hmm.

Absolutely.

Yeah. Way to bring in a little bit more, know, break up the mood. Absolutely. it really is so much of it comes down to the way that we're interpreting our situation. And what I mean by interpreting is we are meaning making mistakes. So everything that we experience and interaction with somebody,

WIW (09:55)
Yeah. Right, right, right. LynAnn Weaver (10:16)
the external pressures that we're facing, how good at something we are or not, all of that starts to compound to create our self belief. What we think is capable, what we think we're capable of, who we see ourselves as, who we think other people see us as. And that belief actually shapes the way that we interact with people, the actions that we take. And those actions are

the drivers of success or failure. I would consider if you're burning out, which I've been there, I've hit that point, and there's multiple factors that are involved with it. However, one of the most effective tools and strategies that can really shift people and that made the biggest difference for me, and I've noticed also made one of the biggest differences in my clients is,

being able to identify what is the meaning I'm giving to this situation right now and how can I change that to where it's something that's more empowering, not as frustrating, something that can bring me joy. And so for example of, my gosh, I have all of these charts left to do, I'm hours behind, I'm not gonna get to do X, Y, or Z tonight, it's wow.

I have this many charts to do because I've been able to help this many patients. But you don't get there if you've disconnected from your purpose, which is why shared a little while ago, like we kind of have four foundational elements that really tie together well to build a thriving, amazing practice. And the first and foremost is clarity, clarity on your why. What is your purpose? Why do I do this?

WIW (11:46)
Hmm. LynAnn Weaver (12:07)
If I didn't get paid another dollar in my life for this, what is it about this that made me go into it? What impact am I making? Who am I helping? Not just the patient, but the patient's family, the place that the patient works, everybody that their organization impacts. Like when you start to stack all of that out, it takes the pressure and focus off of us and helps put it back.

on our purpose and our reason and connecting to that can change that entire meaning that we give to any frustrating situation.

WIW (12:39)
Right. Well, it sounds like everything stems or starts with identifying your why. Why am I doing this? What is the purpose? Is this to grow a clinic? Is it to grow a fleet of clinics? Is it to provide for my kids and my family? Do I genuinely, like most of those things you think about first as a business owner, maybe not a clinician, but definitely a business owner. And then secondary, sometimes you think about the impact you're making with your clients or your patients.

But I can imagine a lot of burnout comes from a physician or a doctor or somebody managing this practice that you've put in all this time, energy and effort and every day you're helping people feel better. And they almost never say thank you. They just leave a one-star review on Google. you've done all of this effort to help, genuinely help.

LynAnn Weaver (13:28)
Yeah. WIW (13:34)
and it's either overlooked or received negatively, unless you solicit a five-star review, you know, because that's like part of my world, right? So how does all that tie in? You're living in this thinkless job almost, right? LynAnn Weaver (13:48)
Mm-hmm. That goes back to the belief that you have about yourself, the language that we use, especially as it relates to self-talk, because you know that you are never going to make everybody happy. We live in a society where we do have patients who come in who have mental disorders or who have drug addictions or who have unreasonable expectations, who are just out there to

try to find somebody to mess up so that they can sue them. Those people do exist, and we see it frequently. That's not the majority of people, but our brains are wired to really look for that, the negative things to help us avoid potential loss or pain. And so those are the things that really stick out more to us. And when you get, a one-star review on Google, it can be really

really challenging and kind of self-defeating. And we all have an ego. It can be damaging to that ego and contradictory to what we see ourselves as or wanting to be. Having a list of questions to ask in a situation like that, again, to reframe that meaning that we're giving to it. Does this one-star review really mean that I'm not a good provider, not a good, you know,

WIW (14:52)
of some layer. LynAnn Weaver (15:13)
whatever position you are in, if it references back to your front desk to whomever, and then what can I be grateful about this situation? And sometimes that can be a really difficult question to ask, but it's an incredibly powerful question with the right framing. And so what can I be grateful about this for? One, maybe it helped us identify.

some sort of issue that we didn't know was negatively impacting our patients. Now we have the opportunity to fix it. What can I learn from this? Was this really an ideal patient? If not, how do I start to attract more people who would leave five star reviews? That gives me some ability to change either how I'm showing up, who I'm reaching out to, how I'm framing our marketing, how I'm

you know, reaching out to potential referral partners, or am I asking the right patients to refer their friends and family? Am I even asking for referrals? Am I asking for the five-star reviews? What can I learn from this situation? And those are the things as you start to stack them. What you described earlier was a lot of providers especially don't feel like they've got autonomy. They went into medicine oftentimes thinking I'm gonna be able to really, you know, impact the way that I'm,

practicing medicine the way that I'm treating patients and that's not always the case and then you have the administrative burdens that come on top of that the operational challenges and the people component of that where they may not have the skills to actually have the autonomy that they're wanting but when you start to Ask yourselves those types of questions. It brings the autonomy back because it shows you wait. I actually do have more influence over

changing something than what I may have initially thought.

WIW (17:07)
That's good. all of this stuff didn't just, you know, you, you didn't just happen to get excited about this, right? Like this kind of information that you're starting to pursue specifically with leadership. And then you position that with the healthcare industry. You got to me tie this together because that's just not normal. And what you're doing isn't normal. It's good. It's powerful. It's helpful. It's improving people's wellbeing, but it's not by accident.

Take me on that journey a little bit. How did you get from point A to point D, E, F, G, all of that?

LynAnn Weaver (17:42)
So the car wreck was really a pivotal moment. I was a teenager and ended up after several days in a coma, woke up to the words from my surgeon saying, I'm sorry, Lenny, you were in a car accident. You're never going to walk again. I went, what? WIW (17:47)
Sure. Okay. LynAnn Weaver (18:06)
That cannot be real. Like I was just training for a marathon. I was running 10 miles a day. I'm a varsity athlete. Have all of these aspirations. And so to me, it was almost like those words took me back to everything that I thought I was, was all of sudden taken away. So my potential to have the job that I wanted, to play sports, to do anything. WIW (18:14)
Hmm. LynAnn Weaver (18:33)
All because I mentioned earlier how important language is. Those words to me meant something possibly different than to anybody else, but to me it meant your future is no longer here. The world that you had envisioned is no longer what it could be because you now have limits that are going to prevent you from getting to where you want to be. And it... WIW (18:37)
Right.

Right.

LynAnn Weaver (19:01)
I went through this process of, this really mean that I can't, I wanted to be a doctor at the time. Does this mean that I really can't ever operate? Does this mean that I can't ever play sports? Does this mean that I can't ever do X, Y, or Z? And I was like, okay, even if I can't walk, there's still other ways that I can accomplish those goals. It's just, maybe it doesn't look the way that I wanted it to. And then it got to the point of where I said,

I don't care what my doctor says. I inbound and determined to walk and there is no other option. And so I went through this entire process where he at the time was probably overdue for retirement anyway and hadn't necessarily either kept up with best practices or had some concerns about newer treatment options, but he didn't believe in physical therapy. And so he would not.

WIW (19:31)
Mm-hmm. LynAnn Weaver (19:58)
write me a referral for physical therapy, which my interns wouldn't cover if I didn't have a referral. So I had to figure it out kind of on my own. And that experience lit a fire about how do I help?

bring awareness to like what's really going to help patients heal. But second, what actually drives true outcomes and where does this power of belief come in? Because you start to look into the research and there's so many examples where somebody was misdiagnosed with cancer. They were given a prognosis on X number of days to live or weeks or months.

they actually end up passing away within that same time frame, well, then they do the autopsy and the tumor was actually benign.

WIW (20:52)
They had just in their brain made up their mind that they were dead. LynAnn Weaver (20:56)
Yeah, and your body actually starts to respond in the way that we believe. And so there is tremendous amount of power and healing power in setting beliefs in an appropriate way to help give patients hope that healing is possible without setting you up for liability because that's the entire reason why he framed it the way he did is minimizing liability risk, which again in today's modern era, unfortunately is something that you have to be aware of. But it made me realize that WIW (21:00)
you LynAnn Weaver (21:26)
our best and brightest aren't, like they're taught how to operate, they're taught how to treat patients, they're taught how to distribute medications and do all of these other things that medical school teaches them how to become an expert in. They don't know how to human. And we can't take that part out of medicine. And so if I can help them figure out how to develop communication skills so that they can set beliefs appropriately or hope.

an inspiration, which is what drives a lot of negative outcomes is you don't have the hope or the belief that something is possible that you're wanting. And two, when I see the data on how much stress causes neurological decline or neurocognitive decline, if you're operating in that state of stress of where you're 19 % slower at making an accurate diagnosis, you

WIW (22:21)
Mm-hmm. LynAnn Weaver (22:22)
Compound that with low energy, sleep deprivation, anything else that actually down regulates the regions of your brain that are going to help with higher level cognitive function. You're putting patients' lives at risk. And so how do we help those who have dedicated so much of their life to taking care of patients, take care of them at the highest level? Well, to do that, we first have to help them take care of themselves. And again, that's not something that they're taught. That's not something any of us are taught unless you start to go look for it. WIW (22:34)
for sure.

Right, No, I think like there's so much so much in your mindset that you that you have to start. Well, first of all, your words are self-fulfilling prophecies, right? Like the things that you say that come out of your mouth, your environment, in my opinion, I could be wrong here, but I think you would agree that your environment is going to turn into what you've spoken it into existence, right?

LynAnn Weaver (22:53)
Like, this should all be in elementary school on up from an education perspective, but it's not.

100%.

WIW (23:20)
The lifestyle that you leave is because of the things that you said and the decisions that you made, right? So I love the fact that you talk about, you know, getting your words right, getting your mindset right. I love this journey that you went on of not accepting what other people have said about you. And you're going to say what you want about you. And you're going to let, you're going to let your environment become what it takes for you to become what you were, what you were trying to accomplish in the first place, which is to be able to walk again, right? I love that. LynAnn Weaver (23:50)
Yeah, absolutely. Which is something that any of our coaching clients, we always have them determine who are you and who would you be if the world, anybody who's spoken limitations ever used. So your parents, your teachers, your friends, your family, your peers, your patients, whomever. Who would you be if none of them told you who you could be? WIW (23:51)
That fires me up. LynAnn Weaver (24:17)
And that is like one of the most eye-opening questions for people because one, again, it shows, hey, you have a choice in this and you can actually change your actions and belief system to be able to operate at that level. Again, beliefs change your actions, actions change your outcomes. And by defining a word of who we are, our body, our brain goes to work of telling our body how to actually execute on those actions. My word was I'm limitless.

So those limits, you're not gonna walk again, that no longer mattered. Because if I am limitless, that is counter to what I was actually seeing myself as and my self perception was more important than what somebody else's limitations were on my life.

WIW (24:47)
Right. I like that.

So I have to ask this question because I think it's monumental with where I want to take this interview anyway, but just in general. Did you change who was in your environment, the people, so that the people that were speaking in alignment with you, did you bring the right people in your circle and get the wrong people out of your circle, like Dr. Negativity, who said you'd never walk again? You probably got a new doctor. These are the kind of things I'm talking about, right?

LynAnn Weaver (25:27)
I did, actually I did. That's so important. You are so spot on with that because our environment, there's a reason that there's a saying of like you become like the five people that you most closely associate with, right? That it's founded in science. Absolutely, and so if you are going through a challenge of any kind, it's incredibly important to be around people who are supportive, encouraging, and help you stay focused on the positive. WIW (25:33)
Right.

I love it. You're the average for sure. That's right.

LynAnn Weaver (25:57)
So you can stay in that positive neurochemical state and achieve the outcomes that you're really wanting. And yes, I did. I was very selective with the people that I was around after that. And I would only have conversations with people who were there to support and encourage me. WIW (25:58)
Mm-hmm.

Which of course brings me to my perfect segue because I am a podcast host at the end of the day. And that is, yeah. Right. If I don't, if I don't give myself an accolade from time to time, it just won't happen. Right. So it's just that speaking on yourself. Right. No, seriously though. If, if you're those, if you're that average of the five people that you hang around most, the best thing that you can do for yourself is to increase your average. And the reason I bring that up is because you've created an environment.

LynAnn Weaver (26:14)
You do this so well.

Yes.

WIW (26:37)
through the Freedom Practice Institute for people to raise our average. It's a mastermind. Tell me about your mastermind. LynAnn Weaver (26:43)
Yes. Yeah. So with my background being in neurosciences, we're launching our first physician masterclass or mastermind group. This one is specifically targeted towards neurosurgeons. We will eventually open this up to other specialties and eventually I would love to bring a big melting pot of all of the greatest minds in allopathic care as well as other less traditional. WIW (26:54)
Okay. LynAnn Weaver (27:06)
forms of treatment because they are very effective as well and most people just don't know about them. So bringing people together can help elevate each other. And this is blending. I'd done programs separately before. A practice growth accelerator that really takes physicians and providers through ways that they can actually grow their practice sustainably and effectively with specific tactics, tools, and strategies. WIW (27:11)
Right.

Mm-hmm.

LynAnn Weaver (27:33)
And then I had my leadership development training. And then we have our wellbeing programs. This mastermind is going to bring all of those together in a two-day experience that will create the community, create the support, and provide the strategies, tools, and tactics to really execute that type of high-performance lifestyle. Anybody who went into healthcare had a vision for their life.

what will the sacrifice of the hours that I put into medical school or going through my MBA or whatever training that was for them, this is going to get me X, and Z so that I can live a life like this. Well, so many of our physicians especially no longer see that as a possibility and they think that if for me to have the level of success and hit all the numbers, it also requires complete sacrifice of everything else in my life. And I've seen too many of our docs

WIW (28:32)
Mm. LynAnn Weaver (28:33)
lose marriages, lose relationships with kids. Several of them have talked to me now about suicidal ideation, even though they haven't actually executed it, because they feel everything else outside of their form of practice is completely spiraling out of control. Well, if we can give them the tools to first learn self-awareness.

how to lead themselves in a way that's going to set the appropriate boundaries so that they can still operate at the most effective level. Give them the productivity or efficiency tools so that they can get more time back so that they have time to spend doing the things that they love, wanted to do in the beginning, and spending the time with the people that matter most to them. And then giving them the stress management tools, the burnout prevention, the wellness or well-being.

education and experience, because it really is an experience. People don't recognize or realize how powerful some of the well-being tools and strategies really can be until you get to experience them and you can feel the before and after. And so we've tied all of those together into this powerful two-day experience, which will be followed by a 12-month ongoing mastermind with some of the top minds in the industry. I'm really excited about it.

to be able to bring the change that I've seen in each one of those groups from the different ones that we've worked with and put this all into a very structured, tangible, quick execution type of format.

WIW (30:05)
I love it so much. You know, my team and I myself am part of a mastermind. I have a coach for my business. I have a coach for my company. I'm in a mastermind of other agencies that are trying to do the same thing that I'm doing. There are much higher levels. A lot of them, a lot of them are at my peer level. Some of them are below me, but it's the average, right? You want to make sure that you're increasing that average. So I think masterminds and these type of workshops where you come together are crucial. But

somebody may be listening that may be like, Hey, I think I'm feeling some of those things that Lenin is talking about. think, think I may be like, I'm not suicidal, but I definitely feel some burnout. I'm a little frustrated. You've put together something that I'm just so grateful for. And I think that our audience is going to be grateful for. It's this high performance indicator assessment.

LynAnn Weaver (30:42)
Mm-hmm. WIW (30:57)
You're giving it away for free. It's got a $97 value, but it's completely free. You're not going to blow them up. You're not going to drive them crazy. It's just a tool. Tell me about the tool and tell me how to access that tool. Let's give that out to the audience. LynAnn Weaver (31:10)
Yeah, so accessing it is healthcareelevation.com slash HPI for the high performance indicator. What this does is it allows you to really, it's a self assessment that was based off of one of the largest studies on human performance in the world. And it allows you to see what areas of your life that you may not be excelling in that if you made some minor shifts and tweaks. WIW (31:19)
Okay. LynAnn Weaver (31:39)
in those areas can really elevate the experience that you have in life, the success that you have, your happiness, work quality. All of the pieces that really drive true success are tied into this assessment and then it'll give you a report at the end that shows you some of those areas and with some key steps to be able to follow to really elevate yourself in those areas.

One thing to note is we do not capture that information. It is not emailed out to you, so please take a screenshot of it as you finish it. That way you're able to actually keep those results, reflect back on them, and make some of the recommended changes.

WIW (32:21)
I love that. So I love that you don't capture the information, but we also want you to have information. So we're going to drop in the show notes one, the link to the self-assessment, make sure that you screenshot it, the results so that you have them. And then also like people may want to connect with you and, and receive your services. And before we give out that information, I need to throw this out there to everybody listening. I've had a chance to listen to Lin-Anne from stage and incredible speaker.

But that isn't what makes her good at what she does. It's the substance of what she's talking about. It's the history that's brought her up to this point. Those are the kind of things that I'm looking for when I'm looking at somebody who can coach me in a situation or somebody who can bring me into a group of people that are going to connect the dots for me. Not just the way you speak, but the substance in what you're speaking about.

So I wanted to throw that out there for Lynnanne, incredible person. I've had the chance to speak with her now multiple times. So proud to have you on the podcast. Where can people connect with you? If they want to connect with you directly, email LinkedIn, however you want to do that.

LynAnn Weaver (33:24)
Yeah, so anybody who may be interested in exploring ways that high performance coaching or a leadership workshop for you or your teams could be helpful or beneficial, we'll do a free discovery call to see if there is something that we can help you with. Or if not, maybe there's somebody else that we can refer you to who can actually address your needs even better than what we could. And that you can find a link on our website, which is

www.healthcareelevation.com and then there's a couple different locations of contact us or book a call or you can email me directly at linnann at healthcareelevation.com and linnann is L-Y-N-A-N-N. Also active on LinkedIn, just linnann.com slash n slash linnannweaver, L-Y-N-A-N-N-W-E-A-V-E-R. Those are the best ways to find me.

WIW (34:18)
We will drop, we will drop all of those links in the show notes for you to be able to just click on and have easy access. Len Antnette has been such a pleasure to have you on the podcast today. I'm so grateful for your time. Thank you for coming on. LynAnn Weaver (34:30)
Thank you so much for having me. This has been a blast. WIW (34:32)
All right, well, you're the average of the people that you hang around the most. And I'm just telling you that Lin-Anne just raised your average today. So thank you for listening, and we'll see you next week. You all have a great week. See you.